Thursday, March 06, 2008

nutcase

Okay, this post is a response to comments on the last post, which somehow got picked up by the Dallas Morning News' Dallas ISD blog, generating a flood of sitemeter hits and four anonymous comments. There was apparently some sort of kismet going on here because a) someone from the Dallas News actually found my unlinked post, and b) I used none of my frequent bad language which would have probably disqualified me from being linked by a respectable family paper. Weirdly enough, I'd never even heard of the website they say I was commenting on, I'd just had the e-mail forwarded to me.

First, a few of points:

1) The gerrymandering thing was just a throwaway comment on my part. On the other hand, anyone who thinks that there is no alterations of the lines as personal political favors for well-connected folk is delusional. There's a small neighborhood off of Mockingbird Lane where the elementary school was Lakewood, but the middle school was Franklin1. I always wondered who lived in that area who could swing such a blatant bit of boundary-fixing.
As for the idea of gerrymandering being ridiculous, how do you think that the "diverse population" of the schools was maintained, at least up until a few years ago? Gerrymandering for diversity is no better than gerrymandering for homogeny. One need only look at our legislative districts to understand that.

2) The racial bit was my bad, and uncalled for, perhaps. It was also a throwaway, the more important division being monetary, rather than racial. Of course, that doesnt change the fact that the neighborhoods with the million-dollar McMansions are are mostly white, and the apartments are not. And yes, those black and brown folks do live in my neighborhood, and my kids do go to school with them, and I'm quite happy about that, because they've grown up not giving a damn about skin color.

3) Yes, North Dallas schools need money for supplies, repairs, expansion, more teachers, etc., etc. So do nearly all of the Dallas schools. Guess what? That requires taxes. And for the last decade or so we've been electing representatives whose mantra is "cut taxes". When times are bad, the solution is to cut taxes. When times are good, the solution is to cut taxes. Do you see the problem here?
And if you're concerned about waste in DISD, the solution is not to cut off the money, but to eliminate the waste. Here's an idea: Surely in North Dallas, there's enough accounting expertise to get a group of concerned tax-paying citizens together to head downtown and do a little auditing of the school districts books. I'm reasonably sure that they cannot stop you.
Is the money distributed "fairly"? No, probably not. Is it ever? If the southern sections are getting more these days, it's because they got less in the past (though that makes it no less wrong).

Now, for the main point of the previous post: I was not objecting to the call to reject the bond issue. Feel free to do so. Giving Hinojosa more money to blow on stadiums and and the destruction of magnet schools isnt sound financial thinking to my mind.
What I was objecting to was the juvenile whining about North Dallas folks who felt they just werent getting their "fair share". I consider this to be a small part of a larger ongoing campaign by "conservative" forces to reduce all of America to pay-per-view status. You can see it everywhere, in the rejection of "socialized" medicine, in the boosting of toll-roads instead of interstates, in the push for school vouchers, in skyrocketing college tuition, and in the general overall reduction of those kinds of services which the government provides.
Such whining is especially egregious when coming from someone who apparently lives in a North Dallas McMansion.
Any nation is, at heart, a society. To belong to a society, especially to a economically successful society, carries certain costs. Such costs often involve those who've benefited greatly from that society carrying those who have not. Should this idea seem unpleasant to those among us who are the "haves", I'm sure there are many third-world oligarchies who would welcome you and your hoarded cash with great pleasure. Please accept their kind invitation rather than dragging America down to that level.
Because if history shows us anything, it is that a major key for a successful society is the pooling of that society's resources for the good of the entire society. Such "investments" by that society's members only tend to fail when they are undermined by graft and corruption. Without such pools, we would not have our water systems2, telephone and electrical service in virtually every home, the interstate highway system, and an educational system (lower and higher) which was the envy of the rest of the world (up until around the Reagan years, anyway)...

Sigh, I'm not explaining myself well, here, am I?

Listen: To be a member of a society, you must contribute to that society. Often, it looks like you arent getting as much out as you put in, but that's because you are failing to take into account the cost of the chaos one may find in a place where society has collapsed. That is the function of your tax dollar, that is the function of our educational system, that is the function of those government agencies that short-sighted Republicans, crying over their "lost" dollars, claim that we dont need. As anyone who's been paying attention at all has noticed, all these things have been waning in the last few decades, and when you combine that with our pathetic record on health-care you have a crisis well into the making, which could have been easily averted if only Americans had paid more attention to things not enterable on a ledger sheet.


1. Lakewood feeds into J. L. Long Middle School, not Franklin. Normally.
2. No medical discovery in history has had as great an impact on our health as clean water. Ever.

12 comments:

Bill said...

"And for the last decade or so we've been electing representatives whose mantra is "cut taxes". When times are bad, the solution is to cut taxes."

Total, complete BS. Name one DISD Board member that ran on a platform of cutting taxes. There aren't any. State one year in our lifetimes that the DISD cut their tax rates, except as required by state law. It hasn't happened.

Over half the population of Dallas lives in rental properties. I imagine that the percentage with children in school is substantially higher. Since these people don't write out a property tax check themselves each year, they don't perceive property taxes as a concern, and are more than happy to spend what they think is other people's money. DISD Board members know this, and run their campaigns to target this majority.

daveawayfromhome said...

Who said anything about the DISD board? I was thinking on a much larger scale overall.

I rent, and believe me, I'm fully aware of the affect of an increase in taxes, because it gets passed down to me in the form of higher rent. Could you be a little more condescending, please?
I'll say this again, the solution to government waste is not to cut taxes, it is to cut waste. And if the DISD board hasnt voted to cut taxes, they've damn sure voted up a heap o' waste (top-heavy administration enabling, anybody?).
Properly spent taxes enhance everyone's life, and should be considered an investment.

Nick's Dad said...

Dave,

Hope you didn't mind that I linked to your blog post from our Dallas ISD blog. I found your site using my Google reader, which scans blogs and the Internet for key words, like "DISD," "Dallas ISD" etc.

Kent Fischer
Dallas Morning News

Nick's Dad said...

Holy Crap. This might be the smartest thing I've ever read. Seriously.

"the solution to government waste is not to cut taxes, it is to cut waste."

Anonymous said...

Dave, I nominate you for the Atticus Finch Award for your honest and compelling writing. If there isn't such an award, let's make one and give it to this guy!

Anonymous said...

I do have two very minor issues though. The stadium (with the Brashear Box seats) was decided before the last bond election, and Hinojosa came after the last bond election. Having said that, I agree the money could have been better spent.

Tearing apart magnets, don't know that the district has done that. They talked about changes (and perhaps they didn't go around it the right way for everyone), but backed off when the community voiced their objections. I think that was exactly the correct reaction, and I haven't heard they are trying to revisit this issue.

In the mean time, they are actually trying to get operational and build some new magnets in areas of town that have gone a very long time without. This is not an easy thing to do, but the wheel is turning, and hopefully it will gather speed.

daveawayfromhome said...

"the solution to government waste is not to cut taxes, it is to cut waste."

Whoops! Did I really phrase it like that? It sounds kind of stupid isolated like that, and one might even accuse you of sarcasm there.

Let's try this one: The solution to high taxes is not to cut taxes, but to cut waste. Governments are not naturally prodigal, but are generally pragmantic in their spending habits, unless corruption sets in. Remember, most of the spending done by government is spending done on behalf of others - not the place where graft is likely to occur. The graft comes in where personal connections occur, such as purchasing your own office furniture or setting up a relative in a luctrative contract. This is why the privatisation movement is doomed to fail: can you imagine a more personal connection than the motive for your company to make a profit? Graft inevitably will follow*. This statement does not include the oldest form of graft, by the way, which is just plain outright stealing. That happens in every system.

* * *

"build some new magnets in areas of town that have gone a very long time without."

One of the things that's great about the magnet schools is that it doesnt matter where you live (sort of), because if your child gets into a magnet school, there's a bus to take them there.
What Hinojosa's up to is pure accounting games. He's trying to shuffle the smart kids around in order to spread the smart kids' scores around. Spreading the intellectual wealth, as it were. Maybe this kind of behavior is inevitable, given that the system cares more about test scores than it does learning.

Personally, having seen some head-scratching ideas come out of DISD administration, I sometimes wonder if Hinojosa's not secretly a pro-voucher Republican. But that's probably my tin-foil hat talking.


*I'm painting with a broad brush here, folks, please dont get offended because you've been doing gov't contracts for years and would never do such a thing. Maybe you wouldnt, but others do, everyday.

daveawayfromhome said...

Atticus Finch rocks!

By the way.

Anonymous said...

I agree that the magnet programs plus is that anyone can attend, but I disagree that it doesn't matter where you live. In my area of town, the kids from the toughest conditions also live the farthest from the school. They have a hard time just making it to school on time, let alone an hour early to catch a bus across town, then spend another hour in the afternoon coming home. For so many, this is not possible, they have after school jobs to get to, family responsibilities.

I'm hopeful that a closer option can help entice more kids to stay in school through graduation. Skyline is a perfect example of a successful magnet program that has helped its community a great deal.

Anonymous said...

no child should have to spend an hour going each way to school each day.

there should be magnet programs across city in different areas offering some of the same things but also different things.

daveawayfromhome said...

The whole point of a magnet program is that it gathers together the best and the brightest ("gathers", like a "magnet"), so having the programs at each school kind of defeats the purpose. Besides, we already have those kind of programs, they're called "tag" and "AP" classes.

Skyline is a also a perfect example of a successful magnet program that Hinojosa is trying to dismantle.

And, yes, it is a pain in the butt to be at the busstop an hour early, especially when the bus comes a half an hour late. I know this because I've been taking my own child to the busstop and picking that child up for the last seven years. It's not convienient, it's not easy. Boo-hoo. Worthwhile things rarely are. There's always something getting in the way, and sometimes the way around that something isnt fun, but what are you going to do. Answer: what you have to.

Anonymous said...

Look at some of these DISD Alumni. We should be using them to help get people back involved in the schools and also obtaining private contributions to help with items that the schools need:

Hillcrest High School:
Harriet Miers — former White House Counsel
Dean Ornish — nationally known nutrition expert and physician
Ajai Sanders — actress and stand-up comic[12]
Kurt Thomas — NBA player for the Seattle SuperSonics, New York Knicks and Phoenix Suns

Thomas Jefferson High School:
M. L. Aday (Meat Loaf), rock musician[5]
Rhys Best, Chairman and CEO, Lone Star Technologies
Michael Carter, former San Francisco 49ers defensive lineman and 1984 Olympics silver medalist in shot put[11]
Ron Chapman, Texas State District Judge, Court of Appeals
Elizabeth Dameron '71, Professor of English, Writer
Eddie Dominguez, former Texas A&M basketball player[12], led TJ to state basketball championship in 1962; owner and president of Tupinamba Restaurants[13]
Linda Evans, CEO, the Meadows Foundation, Dallas
Jan Hart, former Dallas city manager[5]
Dave Huffman, All-American football player and broadcaster, member of the 1977 Notre Dame championship team, Minnesota Vikings center, guard, and tackle
Jimmy Jones, played Major League baseball for the Expos, Astros, and Padres
Tracy Hicks, Noted artist
Karen Katz, CEO, Neiman Marcus Stores
David Meyercord, Former Managing Partner, Strasburger and Price
Hal Mumme, New Mexico Head football coach
Mike Nesmith, actor-musician and member of The Monkees[14][15]
Elizabeth Dameron '71, Professor of English, Writer
Burt Solomons, Representative, Texas State House of Representatives
Becky Sykes, Executive Director, Dallas Women's Foundation
Brenda Vaccaro, Oscar-nominated and Golden Globe-winning actress[16]
Tim Wallace, Chairman and CEO, Trinity Industries
Robert Wilonsky, journalist and television personality
Lee Wunsch, President and CEO, Jewish Federation of Greater Houston
Joni Patry, World Renowned Astrologer

Bryan Adams High School:
Gary Blair, head women's basketball coach for Texas A&M University. Class of 1963.
John Carona, Texas State Senator. Class of 1974.
Lincoln Coleman, former Dallas Cowboys NFL running back. Class of 1987.
Jim Dauterive, executive producer and writer for King of the Hill; namesake of KotH character Bill Dauterive. Class of 1975.
Jeff Davison, CFO, RightNow Technologies. Class of 1974.
Doug English, All-Pro NFL football player. Class of 1971.
Melendy Lovett, president of Texas Instruments Educational & Productivity Solutions and senior vice president of TI[13]. Class of 1976.
Kenyon Martin, power forward for the Denver Nuggets basketball team.[14] Class of 1997.
Ronald Neal, founder and director of Dallas Chamber Orchestra. Class of 1966.
Bob Phillips, Host of long-running television series Texas Country Reporter. Class of 1969.
Mary Poss, Former mayor pro-tem of Dallas was also acting Mayor (2003). Class of 1969.
Gen. James Rothenflue, Ph.D., USAF Ret., former director of U.S. space-based laser weapons program. Class of 1983.[15][16][17][18]
Angela Wilson, Artistic Director Theatre Quorum, playwright, actor, Class of 1972.

Adamson High School:
Leonora Corona - opera singer[12]
Tom Chandler - head coach of baseball for Texas A&M University from 1959-1984[12]
Yvonne Craig - Batgirl from the 1960s TV series Batman[12]
Samuel David Dealey - Navy submarine hero[12]
E. King Gill - Texas A&M University's 12th man[12]
Malcolm Harris (class of 1988) - noted comic book writer[12]
Brenda Hayward (class of 1959) - elected first Miss Teenage America in 1958 (then Brenda Brodnax)[12]
Frank W. Mayborn (class of 1922) - Texas newspaper publisher and philanthropist from Temple
Michael Martin Murphey (class of 1963) - country-western music artist[12]
Joe R. Pool - served in Texas State House of Representatives 1953–1958; U.S. Congress 1963–1968
B. W. Stevenson (class of 1967) - country pop music artist[12]
Doyle Willis (class of 1926) - served on Texas Legislature[12]
Jim Wright (class of 1939) - elected to Texas State House of Representatives (1947), mayor of Weatherford (1948), elected to U.S. Congress (1955), Speaker of the United States House of Representatives (1987-1989)[12]

Carter High School:
Clifton Abraham, former NFL cornerback
Jessie Armstead, former NFL linebacker
Karan Ashley (Karan Ashley Jackson), TV actress; played Aisha in the Power Rangers TV program
Chet Brooks, former NFL cornerback
Joe Burch, former AFL lineman
Michael Crabtree, wide receiver for the Texas Tech Red Raiders
Greg Hill, former NFL running back
Le'Shai Maston, former NFL fullback
Steve Nice, radio personality on K104, a Dallas-area mainstream urban station
Darius Smith, former Texas A&M center

Kimball High School:
Michael Rhyner — current radio host of "The Hardline" on KTCK 1310-AM
Stephen Tobolowsky (1969) — a Tony Award-nominated actor
Michael Barker (1972) — President of Sony Pictures Classics
Jeryl Sasser (1997) — former NBA Player, played for Bnei HaSharon of the Israeli basketball league
Jason Sasser (1992) — former NBA Player
Quinton Ross (1999) — NBA Player for Los Angeles Clippers
Don King (1982) — former SMU Quarterback during the Pony Express; NFL Green Bay Packers (1987)
Marvin Washington (1984) — NFL Player San Francisco 49ers and Denver Broncos
Acie Law (2003) — NBA Player for Atlanta Hawks
Belita Moreno (1968) Star of "The George Lopez Show" and noted actress.
Sheryl Stamps Leach (1971) Creator of the famous children's purple dinosaur, "Barney"
DeMarcus Granger (2005) Oklahoma defensive tackle
Todd Whitten (1983) Head football coach, Sam Houston State University

Lincoln High School:
Arthello Beck — African-American artist and gallery owner
Big Tuck — rapper
Chris Bosh of the Toronto Raptors NBA basketball team[8] — led Lincoln to the number-one rank nationally
Abner Haynes, American Football League All-Star running back
John Hopps, Jr. (1954) — physicist[9]
Herbie Johnson, one of the first African-American students to graduate from the University of North Texas (then known as North Texas State College)[10]

Forest Ave High School/James Madison High School
As Forest Avenue High School:

Stanley Marcus '21, department-store magnate
Aaron Spelling '40, television producer
Ruthe Lewin Winegarten '47, author and activist
Jack Glatzer '56, concert violinist
As James Madison High School:

Stone Johnson, 1960 Olympic track star, Kansas City Chiefs star
Brett Maxie, assistant coach with NFL's Miami Dolphins, former NFL player
Dave Stallworth, NBA player (first-round draft pick), won championship with New York Knicks
Dwight White, former NFL Pro Bowl player, member of Pittsburgh Steelers "Steel Curtain" defense

North Dallas High School:
Tex Avery - 1927 - famous director of animated shorts; created Daffy Duck and many elements of Bugs Bunny[7]
Earle Cabell — United States Representative (1965–1973), Dallas mayor (1961–1964)[8]
Robert "Bob" Brooks Cullum — Dallas civic leader and co-founder of Tom Thumb-Page Food Stores[9]
Robert Dedman, Sr. — Dallas lawyer and philanthropist who founded ClubCorp, an international company operating golf courses, private clubs, and resorts[10]
Jack Walker — state- and national-level athlete who played for Louisiana State University in two of the first three Sugar Bowl football championships[11]

Pinkston High School:
Regina Taylor — nationally known actor and playwright[1]

Samuell High School:
Mike Biko — Ninth pick of 1st. round of Major League Baseball draft of 1966 by the Philadelphia Phillies Baseball Club.
Mike Beeler — 2nd. round pick of Major League Baseball draft of 1966 by the Philadelphia Phillies Baseball Club.
Kyle Money — 2nd. round pick of Major League Baseball draft of 1979 by the Philadelphia Phillies Baseball Club.
Greg Money — Draft pick of Major League Baseball draft of 1980 by the Philadelphia Phillies Baseball Club.
Omar Washington — Draft pick of Major League Baseball draft of 1989 by the Philadelphia Phillies Baseball Club.
Cleveland Ladell — Draft pick of Major League Baseball draft of 1992 by the Cincinnati Reds Baseball Club.
Sam Walton — Draft pick of Major League Baseball draft of 1997 by the Seattle Mariners Baseball Club.
Albert Black — 2000 Chairman of the Greater Dallas Chamber of Commerce.
Joe Dixon — Defensive back on The University of Texas 1963 National Championship Team.
Dan Seals — Country and Pop Musician also known as England Dan.
John Ford Coley — Partner in musical duo with Dan Seals; hits include "I'd Really Love To See You Tonight".
Ron Jones — 1969 NFL tight end for the Green Bay Packers.
Joe Kendall — Former Federal Judge (1992-2002).
Mark Reeves — famous "Dapper Bandit", robbed banks in the North Texas area from 1978-1988.
Steve Ramsey — Punter/Quarterback New Orleans Saints 1970, Denver Broncos (1971-76).
Jerry Reynolds — Owner of Prestige Ford car dealerships in the Southwest.
Lulu Roman — Former Hee Haw TV show personality.
Russ Martin — Host of The Russ Martin Show, a radio program in Dallas.
Sammy Walker — Shot Put Collegiate record breaker at Southern Methodist University and athlete at the 1976 Summer Olympics.
Dr. James Hughey — Samuell High School Principal from 1984-1989 & Dallas independent School District Superintendent from 1995-2000 & 2001-2003.
Chris Warren — Professional bowler
David Alan Baker— Wrote "City of Heroes" for NBC's Third Watch premier, as an adaptation of his song "Los Angeles".
Jeff Gregg — Talent agent for Creative Artists in Nashville.
Stephany Samone — 1986 Miss Texas winner was a top 10 finalist for Miss America.
Dale Tillery — Former Texas state representative for District 10.
Mike Trent — Former University of Texas Longhorn Centerfielder. Mike set College World Series record by scoring 4 runs in 1983 game. UT Team won title.
Bo Wayne Weaver--Professional baseball player for Seattle Pilots
Byron Moses Pierce--Co-founder of Texas-Louisiana professional baseball league and the United League of professional baseball.
Shawn Scott — Founder and CEO of Parking Logistics Inc. Creator of the QuickPark parking system.

Seagoville High School:
LaMarcus Aldridge (2004) — professional basketball player for the Portland Trailblazers; former college player for the University of Texas and finalist for the John R. Wooden Award for best male college basketball player[8]

Skyline High School:
Brian Berkeley '74, co-designer of Apple Macintosh II computer
Brent Bourgeois '74, Christian rock musician and producer
"Cowboy Troy" Coleman '89, country music artist
Terry Crouch '77, NFL football player
Julie Dam '89, People magazine senior editor and "chick lit" author
Deryl Dodd '82, country music artist
Richard Dominguez '79, comic book artist
Kyle Gann '73, postclassical composer and music critic
Peri Gilpin '79, actress (best known as "Roz Doyle" on Frasier)
Chris Holt '90, major league baseball player
Steve Holy '90, country music singer
Tim Jackson '85, NFL football player
Larry Johnson '87, NBA basketball star
Michael Johnson '86, world and Olympic champion sprinter
Mark Michnevitz '97, renowned scientist and engineer
Dante Jones '83, NFL football player
Gentry Little '82, Texas HS Sportscaster of 2006, recently called his 800th game on radio
Lanham Lyne '72, mayor of Wichita Falls, Texas
Anthony McSpadden '88, Internationally known Classical Music broadcast personality and program director
Calvin "C. J." Miles, Jr. '05, NBA basketball player
(Neal) Keith Miller '80, major league baseball player
Allen Rossum '94, NFL football player
Michael Weiss '76, jazz pianist, composer, bandleader, recording artist
Rodney "London" Williams '91, entertainment executive
Antonio Wilson '95, NFL football player

South Oak Cliff High School:
Darrell Arthur class of 2006; plays for Kansas Jayhawks
Tony Battie class of 1994; plays in the NBA for the Orlando Magic[7]
LaTarence Dunbar, class of 1998; former player for the Atlanta Falcons and Houston Texans[7]
Delrick Johnson, class of 1996; former player for the Wichita Aviators indoor football league
Chryste Gaines, Olympic sprinter[7]
Rod Jones, NFL player[7]
Dennis Rodman former NBA Player[7]
Harvey Martin, former Dallas Cowboy
Lincoln "Link" Browder class of 1983; R&B singer, songwriter & producer has written songs for Gerald Levert, LSG "My Body", Silk, Next, Kut Klose, etc. Also has released two solo albums.
Jack Nance actor

Spruce High School:
Maceo Baston (1993) - Toronto Raptors forward; played basketball at Michigan[10]
Cedric Bonner (football player) (1997) - Former NFL Atlanta Falcons (2005) receiver[10]
Jitter Fields (1980) - Former Saints, Colts and Chiefs defensive back (1984, 1987); played for UT[10]
C.J. Richardson (1991) - Former Arizona Cardinals safety (1995); played collegiately at Miami[10]
Stevin Smith (1990) - Former Dallas Mavericks (1997) guard[10]
Charles Washington (1984) - Former NFL defensive back[10]

Sunset High School:
Film and broadway actress Louise Latham was in the Class of 1940 and voted Most Likely to Succeed.
40's film star Linda Darnell also attended Sunset and was a member of the class of June, 1941.
Wimberly Goodman (Class of '36), aka Henry Calvin, played Sergeant Garcia in the Walt Disney TV series "Zorro".
Golf great Don January graduated in 1947.
Jerry Rhome quarterbacked the Bison football team '59-'61. He was a back-up quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys for almost a decade, and is currently one of the most highly respected quarterback coaches in the NFL.
Former NFL players Don Goss (Cleveland Browns) *Novelist and journalist Billy Lee Brammer was a member of the Class of '48.
Texas Rangers batting coach Rudy Jaramillo was a member of the class of 1970.
John Cerminaro '65 has served as principal horn player of the New York Philharmonic, Los Angeles Philharmonic, and Seattle Symphony Orchestra.
Terry Southern, author of "Candy", "The Magic Christian", and other novels; was screenwriter on "Easy Rider", "Dr. Strangelove" and other notable movies; contributed to scripts on "Saturday Night Live" in the early 1980s; and taught writing at NYU and Columbia Universities in the 80s and 90s, was a member of the class of 1942. He died in 1995.

W.T. White High School
Jean Barrett — former NFL football player
Trey Beamon — former Major League Baseball player
David Beecroft (1974) — television actor
Susan Lieberman Dell philanthropist; http://www.msdf.org/about/bio.aspx?id=40
Karen Hughes — United States Under Secretary for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs
Calvin Murray — former Major League Baseball player
Ramon Nunez — professional soccer player
Johnny Simmons — actor
Scott Verplank (1982) — professional golfer

Woodrow Wilson High School:
Len Akin 1934, professional football player
Tim Brown 1984, professional football player and 1987 Heisman Trophy winner[10]
Georgia Carroll Kyser 1937, model for 1936 Texas Centennial "Spirit of the Centennial" statue, former actress, model and widow of band leader Kay Kyser
Ruth Collins Sharp Altshuler 1940, Dallas philanthropist[10]
Trammell Crow 1932, major Dallas builder and real estate mogul[10]
Jack Evans 1940, former mayor of Dallas
Bill Forester 1949, professional football player
Eddie Garcia 1978, professional football player
Burton Gilliam 1956, actor
Jerry Haynes 1944, actor and former children's television host[10]
Dusty Hill 1967, member of ZZ Top
Curley Johnson 1954, professional football player
William Kieschnick 1940, retired CEO of ARCO
Sergio Kindle 2006, current Texas Longhorns football player
Alton Lister 1976, professional basketball player[10]
Mario Martinez 1963, inventor of the frozen margarita and restaurateur
William C. McCord, former CEO of ENSERCH Corporation (now Atmos Energy)
John McCrumbly 1971, professional football player
Steve Miller 1961, musician Steve Miller Band
Buddy Minyard 1930, head of the Minyard/Carnival chain of groceries
Ken Morris 1968, co-founder of PeopleSoft
Davey O'Brien 1935, professional football player and 1938 Heisman Trophy winner[10]
William H. Seay 1936, retired CEO of Southwestern Life Insurance Company
Joe Shearin 1978, professional football player
Carroll Shelby 1940, racecar driver
George N. Zarafonetis 1937, developer of the credit card[10]
Four U.S. Congressmen, including Rep. Sam Johnson [11]
One Postmaster General of the United States
One Attorney General of Texas
One recent Chief Justice of the Texas Supreme Court
Two Dallas mayors

Preston Hollow Elementary School:
Jenna Bush and Barbara Pierce Bush - Daughters of U.S. President George W. Bush and Laura Bush; Laura Bush served on Preston Hollow's PTA while the Bush twins attended Preston Hollow[18][19]

Booker T. Washington High School:
Norah Jones[10]
Erykah Badu[11]
Elizabeth Mitchell[12]
Frank LoCrasto[13]
Edie Brickell
Zac Baird (Keyboardist for KoRn)
Roy Hargrove
Jay Hennig (Flutist of The Best Band Ever)
Aaron Comess (Drummer for The Spin Doctors)
Ross Edgerley[14]
Tough Luck (All Female Band)
Jennifer Delilah [3]
"Kool" Kel Sanders
Darryl B. Sneed (Dallas Black Dance Theater)
Andrea "Sid" Curtis[15]
Ernie Banks, member of National Baseball Hall of Fame, Booker T. Washington High School class of 1950
Shannon Bishop
Bill Blair, Negro League baseball pitcher and newspaper publisher, BTWHS
Keith Loftis Saxophonist
Sara Kidd-Kitto Theater class of 1982
Jessica Mejia Theatre class of 2006