Monday, October 02, 2006

trade proposal

Hey, I just had a brainstorm!

You know, I've been pretty pissed off about the whole torture issue. In fact, that America could even consider approving torture depresses me greatly, and make me wonder just how I could have grown up in a country and still have it seem like such an alien place now (and wonder what these goddamned alien pod-people have done with the real Americans, the ones who understood the concept of "cruel and unusual punishment").
But I had an idea to get rid of the torture issue, at least until the next generation of psychopathic leadership rears its ugly head. It'll cost something, but I think it'll be worth it in the long run.

Liberals, i.e., the Democratic Party, need to offer a trade to the Conservatives, i.e., the Republican Party:
Abortion in exchange for Torture.
That's right, as a party, the Dems will agree to the outlawing of abortion, if the Republicans agree to make torture illegal in all forms.

You think I'm nuts, dont you? But I'm not.

This plan is a sure road to a slam-dunk victory over the Republican Party. Listen to my idea, and tell me if I'm wrong.

To begin with, there's a chance that the Republicans wont accept this, which will look really bad to the Anti-abortion crowd, for whom all other issues fall a distant second, at best. And Karl Rove will be shitting in his pants if the offer is made, because he knows that without the Abortion issue, Republicans fall way behind Democrats on every single other Christian value issue, except for gay-bashing and maybe that "strict father" authoritarian stuff.
The offer will serve as a wedge then, which will split the party between those true anti-abortionists who really do want to end the practice, and those who've merely ridden the coat-tails of the issue to office, but know that once the issue is gone, they'll have to answer for their less moral choices in other areas. This crowd will then find itself trying to fend off the Democrats, using National Security as an excuse to keep torture, which will invite discussions about killing children to keep the Nation safe.
W-ho W-ould J-esus T-ortureAt this point, the real trick will be to make sure that the discussion of both torture and abortion are kept together, both being held out as morally questionable acts. Dems need not worry about holding up the abortion side of that arguement, there will be plenty of anti-abortion true believers to do that. They need only hammer at the morality of torture as a parallel arguement to the arguement about abortion (which has often used torture imagery in its arguements).

remember, if the Republicans had been in charge of Rome, Jesus would have been an insurgentBut let's say that the Republicans do accept the offer. True, they will gloat about the victory, tell everyone how they are the moral party because they won the battle against abortion. Thing is, everyone will know that they won the battle because the Democratic party felt so strongly about torture (a decidedly Republican-backed policy) that they were willing to let their largely idealistic stand on abortion go. After all, while the Democrats may have supported abortion-rights, none of them ever appeared to feel good about their stand. On the other hand, there are just a few too many Republicans (including the President and Vice-President) who seem very happy about the prospect of torturing human beings, even if the benefit from such a policy is dubious, at best. Let that thought stew in the back of Christian minds. (Dont forget to mention that Jesus was tortured, also)

To all of you out there dismayed at the thought that abortions will be gone and we'll return to the bad old days of back-alley abortions, well, yes, perhaps we shall. I'm sorry about that. But an illegal abortion would be a choice that someone would have to make, as opposed to those who will suffer under the auspices of Lord Bush's Torture Policy (and dont respond that those under the loving hands of the CIA, et al, chose to to be "enemy combatants", because that assumes guilt before it is proven, another American value currently being raped by the Bush Cabal).
And there is another difference between now and those dark days before Roe v. Wade. Before, those who died of botched abortions performed in grimy rooms by amatuers did so mostly in obscurity. In the future, these deaths will not go hidden, they will be news, if for no other reason than because some Pro-Abortion forces will be just as tenacious as abortion foes are now. And remember, today we also have the RU-486 pill, the retaining of which can be part of the deal, and which may even find itself legalized in more states once it is the only "abortion" option available. Increased use of the pill may also lead to greater awareness, and efforts towards the reduction, of rape, especially when the victims are forced to carry the children conceived in those attacks.
It's entirely possible that abortion, with all it's moral quandaries, will return in the course of a generation or so, anyway. It's one thing to be against abortion when it is a choice, but when it ceases to be so, many may find that they would prefer to have the decision left up to them, after all. I have little doubt that, whether they know it or not, every single person who campaigns against abortion knows someone who has secretly had one.

Finally, this might be a bitter pill for some to swallow, but consider this: We are in the midst of a cultural war. Certainly the Conservatives think, and even say, so. They claim that it is Christianity under fire, but really, the influence of Christianity has been on the wain for decades. Now, Christian "soldiers" are fighting back without mercy, laying siege to the culture and apparently forgetting all they supposedly stand for in an effort to regain power. Make no mistake, in a war, sacrifices are made. Personally, I'm willing to sacrifice "a woman's right to choose", especially if it works to remove a party from power that seems to be intent on removing other, far more important (and less morally questionable), rights.

Ask yourself, would you call trading anti-abortion legislation for anti-torture legislation fair? And if I'm right, and the end of the abortion battle also brought the end of the dominance of the Republican party as the so-called "party of morality", you would also be trading anti-abortion legislation for tax reform (away from tax breaks for the rich), an end to the madness that is educational testing, and a return of monies for social services, arts, medical care, and infrastructure. Imagine a military with a fully funded veterans administration, or increased money put into higher education returning a college education to within the reach of working students, or funding for solutions for childcare for working parents; do you think these things will happen under the Bush Administration, and whoever follows in their footsteps?





Okay, I said "finally" above, but this is actually my final point: The Abortion Issue is an albatross around the neck of the Democratic Party. It will never go away until abortion itself goes away. This can happen in two ways:
One, slowly over the years, as the Republican Party turns back the clock, wiping out decades of Liberal policies because a few people throw out the fetus with the bathwater. A lot of damage has been done to this country because people cannot see beyond one issue. (Those reading this who think my idea betrays Liberals everywhere might consider those words also). The Democrats can never say, okay, we've changed our minds, we dont like abortion either, because Republicans will simply accuse them of pandering, a charge that will look true enough to the public, giving the GOP another club to beat Dems with. Or...
Two: Using my plan. But with this second route, the Democrats do not say, "oh we've changed our minds", they simply say, "Torture is something we feel very strongly about, while we're more ambiguous about abortion. So we're willing to end abortion to put an end to torture, if you Republicans are willing to end torture to put an end to abortion". Let Karl spin that idea.

Remove the albatross, give it a little time, and the abortion debate will come back; and next time, everybody can avoid making it a party litmus test. In the meantime, we will cease to be a state that condones torture. That seems more than reasonable to me.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Dave,
I didn't read the whole post it was far to long but I'm sure that my bride (the dead set abortion hater) would surely agree that no detainee should suffer a fate worse than a aborted fetus. She said she would absolutely be tickled for all detainess to be treated exactly like a fetus inside a worthless woman. She is all for it and she will gladly trade the treatment of the prisoners in Gitmo for the treatment of aborted babies.
just her take
jsull28fl@yaho

Saur♥Kraut said...

Oh bravo! I'm in! When you want to run for President, I'll happily sign onto the campaign.

daveawayfromhome said...

No Presidency for me, I'm afraid. The Corporations would have me killed before they'd let me in the Oval Office, because I'll tell you, there'd be some good old fashioned Populist policy-making going on if I came to town.

Besides, more than a handfull of people would have to hear my proposal, and I dont see the commentary to support those kind of numbers. Alas, we're stuck with the neo-cons until they all keel over from their excessive lifestyle (far too late for the rest of us).

Anonymous said...

nah Dave, I'm thinking if the dems can put up anyone smarter than a monkey they will win this next one, thats the natural order of things. The reps have it to long, they have moved away from their principals that won them so many elections. If there was a viable third party that was socially liberal and fiscaly conservative and damn strong on defense they would win 65% i'm thinking.
j

daveawayfromhome said...

The problem is not the next election. It's going to take more brains than the Democrats have shown to survive next two years if (and I do say "if") they win this November. The Dems arent going to be able to keep control after 2008 if they dont start aggressively doing a few things, like:
a) acting like the representitives of the People, rather than lighter versions of the Republicans ("Some people call you the elites; I call you my base.")
b) digging deep to uncover all the BushCo lies and war profiteering. This should be the easy one.
c) restoring lost civil rights to everybody.
d) acting like the Military is something more than cannon fodder - by funding it!
e) fixing the monsterous deficit - by, you guessed it, TAXES. This will be the hard one, but unless you feel like watching an economic crash the like of which aint been seen since the Great Depression, you'd better buckle down and get on with it. Maybe start with rolling back the tax cuts made by the GOP. The tax rates of the Clinton years didnt seem to hurt the economy, did they?

Even all this may not help if the other terrorist shoe drops. Let one islamo-bomb go off, and the Bush-Cheney-Rove axis will blame the Democrats, because "they're in charge now". Never mind that the Executive Branch runs the FBI, CIA and other intelligence and enforcement agencies. No, they'll try and tell us that the the Dems "weakness" against the Terrorist "encouraged" them to attack. Naturally, any Democratic questions about why the Bush Administration dropped the ball in stopping said attack will be dismissed as "partisan politics".

Yes, Virginia, people really are that stupid.

Anonymous said...

Dave,
Ok now I am sure that over a 12 pack we could hash some stuff out. I think the Dems hurt theirselves by not saying what they are for. We all know what they are against but not what they are for. They never say. Ok they hate bush, he lied, rove is an ass what now????
If they would just say it it would be better. I really belive, just because of the ups and downs of the cycle they should win this time. Maybe not enough to get both houses but 1 at least and alot of seats anyway. I have told before that a Dem congrassman from Fl is a personal friend and his daughter was in my wedding and he is a decent guy but other than him I havent a clue what the Dems want except abortion.
anyway I didnt adress all the points, I do like that you don't always carry the dems,reps,libs,inds water and you think.
jsull

100 Farmers said...

Dave, watch "The Wire". You need a break dude.