So here's the "bad" dave comment:
davetheguilt-free said...and now here's my response (I'm the "good" Dave):
Ummmm... actually before those awful bombs got dropped Japan (who knew it was only a matter of time and that if the truth got out heads would roll almost literally) ordered all the American British and Australian POW's in custody at the time killed en masse.
375,000...375,000...
Plus the invasion of Japan that those awful bombs rendered unnecessary saved the one million (1,000,000) U.S. servicemen predicted to be lost in the first three months of the invasion...
1,375,000...1,375,000
...and that's just the Americans...in the first three months...
Might one suggest that these awful bombs are seen from a context of uninterrupted peace that required no personal effort to defend because of the blood that awful generation spilled to make possible???
Go back to your bong, hippies!!!
I dont think many people argue that dropping the Bombs on Japan didnt speed up the end of the war and save a lot of lives. But that's not what we're talkining about here, is it? Instead of distraction and name-calling, try separating a defensive defeat of a military power attempting to take over the world (the U.S. vs Japan) on the one hand, and an agressive attack on a small nation that has not yet even created WMDs by a massive military power which fears that it might (the U.S. vs Iran) on the other.
And what "uninterrupted peace" exactly are we talking about? The U.S. has been involved in a war every decade since WWII, so I can only assume that you mean that there has been no wars on U.S. soil since then, and that any blood shed elsewhere is not us, and so unimportant.
I might also add that through trade and cultural exchange, America before George Bush was already largely in charge of the world, mostly because people all over the world wanted to be us. So even as they chanted "Death to the Great Satan", you could go into their houses and find Great Satan Cola, among other U.S. products, and could probably bet that they had watched a Great Satan movie or TV show earlier in the week, or listened to some of our Hellish music, somewhere, sometime.
Is that still true now, when they hate us so much more because of an ill-conceived invasion launched upon lies?
Oh, and hippies were a Boomer plague which we have yet to recover from, and I dont smoke dope, or engage in much more than an occasional English bitter.
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Hey there! I just saw this post and want to say that I'm delighted we dropped the A-bombs on Japan in WW2, but must agree that it would be a mistake in Iran due to the radioactive fallout. I have no doubt that Iran's a threat, though, and have no problems in taking them out in any other way. I just don't believe in Nation Building unless they pay us to do so. I think we need to clean out the current gov't. and let them all pick up the pieces afterwards. But I'm also completely in favor of covert assassinations.
Bombing Iran: Too soon, too hastily, and too many lies from this Administration to believe anything they've got to say, especially when their own Military boys are balking.
Maybe Iran is a huge threat, but I wont take Dubya's word for that.
More dope and hippies, less politicians!
but so many politicians are dopes!
Or maybe that should read, But we're the dopes who elect the politicians.
Thanks for defending our good name, Dave.
And how is Iran a threat? An army of about 400k, more than 50% conscripts, using relatively medieval technology? Yes, it would be practically impossible to invade for the same reasons that Afghanistan was hard, but left alone what is Iran going to do? Invade Afghanistan or Iraq? Or Pakistan?
Also, cleaning out the government then walking away is pretty fucking irresponsible. It would fan angry anti-US flames throughout the country and guarantee the vacuum fills with a more hostile totalitarian, fundamentalist regime.
And. (Sorry, this is why I don't get started.) "...don't believe in Nation Building unless they pay us to do so." There're plenty of companies making a motzah from Iraq - all paying tax in the US. This goes on the income side of the ledger. By all means let the country rebuild itself, but that just makes the invasion more expensive; all expense, no income.
Not that kind of dope!
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